Comments on UniMetagame- The Unique Metagame: Ban List Analysis: Brain Control

Its just a simple case of luck sacking, it hardly ...

2010-01-04T09:07:41.841-08:00

Its just a simple case of luck sacking, it hardly happens just main Book of moon 2/3 of those it can save you for mostly anything that affects face up cards

Im fine with brain control being limited to one. H...

2009-09-03T14:28:41.449-07:00

Im fine with brain control being limited to one. H

"If you handnt chose to run certain card, the...

2009-08-18T13:44:16.465-07:00

"If you handnt chose to run certain card, then you wouldnt top it and "lucksacked" the game, so in other words you put a card because you know it can help, just because you got "lucky" with a top deck and won doesnt mean is not fair and you dont deserve it."

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There's a difference between getting lucky and sacking. Topping a Brain Control is sacking.

nope two of each cuz 3 rly would just get in the w...

2009-08-16T04:25:46.670-07:00

nope two of each cuz 3 rly would just get in the way
bkb and tragoss for the high lvls

The Ban list exists to change the flow of the game...

2009-08-14T22:06:01.133-07:00

The Ban list exists to change the flow of the game and restrict certain amount of "brokeness" in some cards that would make the game too dumb to play when most games end in a FTK.

Im not saying I disagree with Brain Control beeing banned at all, the card is one of the tops to be banned. I just dislike the idea of having it banned cause of "lucksacks" because I dont believe in that term, but to each its own.

If you handnt chose to run certain card, then you wouldnt top it and "lucksacked" the game, so in other words you put a card because you know it can help, just because you got "lucky" with a top deck and won doesnt mean is not fair and you dont deserve it.

This is a different statement and does not means I think Brain Control doesnt deserve a ban.

Love the articules ;)

Reply to Mike: You're over at the other extre...

2009-08-14T13:33:55.118-07:00

Reply to Mike:

You're over at the other extreme not even acknowledging that certain cards are "luck sacks".

To you I ask, "Why ban any card then if this game is about luck?"

The answer is simple. Certain cards are just too powerful and cause wins too easily to be allowed in our metagame.

1 such card I proposed was Brain control.

If you disagree with the above philosophy, you disagree to the ban list altogether.

Luck sacking cards exist; acknowledge them.

Let me guess: It's 3 of each with Ultimate Off...

2009-08-14T12:39:03.824-07:00

Let me guess: It's 3 of each with Ultimate Offering?

so do anyone think it shouldnt be banned? i reaaa...

2009-08-14T09:08:00.629-07:00

so do anyone think it shouldnt be banned?

i reaaaaly want ta see the new banlist lol

i just found a dark strike gadgets otk and im gonna patent it if it isnt banned

Brain Control is indeed a good card. I do understa...

2009-08-13T19:17:45.285-07:00

Brain Control is indeed a good card. I do understand your reasons for it to be banned, but I dont think talking about an "unfair win" makes sense.

This whole "lucksacking" thing is kind of dumb, cause if you sit back and think about, the whole game is about luck. Alot of people just keep crying saying ho wmuch they deserve a win and his opponent "lucksacked" him. Not really, he just had a better deck and playe dit right. If you played more carefully then you wouldnt have been "lucksacked". And even if you played good, then that wasnt your match, deal it it.

This card game becomes annoying when people start whinning about losing because of "lucksack". Oh and, there splenty of times players have win thanks to Braincontrol but they only cry when they lose to it. Enjoy the game a bit more instead of whinning about it, its a card game, it IS about luck and we all have our moments.

Yes, we both agree it's way too powerful. I wo...

2009-08-13T17:21:09.559-07:00

Yes, we both agree it's way too powerful. I would actualy like it to be banned, but like I said earlier, I don't want it to be banned for "lucksacking" a win. That opens the door for worse bans. As for mind control, I forget that most people didn't play glads as much as I did, and forget to think about as anything other than a free switchout. Anyway, what do you need a combo for mirror force? Any of the rampant spell and trap destruction would do that. But during the endgame, when all those resources have been used and mirror is top-decked, that's when it becomes the potential for the luck sack win. What I'm trying to say, is that the endgame is where all the power cards gain the luck sack ability, not just specific ones. Once again, I'm not saying it shouldn't be banned. Just not for luck sacking. I should have been more clear last post. As for the argument, I doubt anyone cares anymore, but I felt the need to contribute this anyway.

None of you have seen the 4th scenario when someon...

2009-08-13T13:33:26.342-07:00

None of you have seen the 4th scenario when someone who has 800- lp loses because he/she drew a brain control. Has it happened many times? Yes, and actually to me too. Have you won with brain control, yes, did you deserve it? thats your choice, but you did win. Saying that you should ban brain control for its amazing power, why not add 200 more lp and ban JD for its broken effect? or DaD for its broken effect? The reason that they banned snatch steal is because you can have 50 lp and still use it for game, at the scenario you are describing it seems he wouldnt have any MST to destroy it anyways. Thus, making snatch steal a tad bit more broken, and brain control not.

So yeah, the guy from singapore that won the worlds did not desearve that win because he was using brain control, but the dude from the local that runs a Dark Magician Deck that doesnt run it cause its too broken desearves to win the worlds for the same reason.

And even a more broken effect is that Shapesnatch, ive got the original with the effect and I run it, but now they want to ban it for its broken effect, and ppl leave my duels banging the walls... Broken yes, bannable? yes, legal? maybe.

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2009-08-13T07:26:18.050-07:00

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"It is when you have a solemn set, a bth set,...

2009-08-12T12:35:58.284-07:00

"It is when you have a solemn set, a bth set, and a judgment on the field.

You have to take into account all that you need and to ask for all that, and a necro, is again asking for too much."

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No it's not. Lightsworn has no trouble getting at least 1 Necro in the grave. To say having one would be too much is a tad ignorant and stubborn on your part.

3/4 majority 1 situation was a little off mebbe b...

2009-08-12T06:00:22.976-07:00

3/4 majority

1 situation was a little off mebbe
but the other three were accurate

and i was usin brain cotrol yesterday and it wasnt even just luck sacking- every time i opened with it i won- and it was a pretty even matchup

Mind Control is a very powerful card as well but i...

2009-08-10T04:52:58.937-07:00

Mind Control is a very powerful card as well but it's main weakness is you can't steal a monster and attack with it.

That single aspect wins games much more than synching.

As milkncookies explained above, people steal monsters all the time with brain and attack for game, when they don't deserve it.

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My opinion is such: Brain should be banned because it creates shifts in the game too strong to be warranted.

These shifts are so powerful they lead to unneeded and undeserved victories a large amount of the time.

Thus brain control, like it's colleagues deserves a ban.

No card luck sacks nearly as much as Brain; especially not Mirror Force which is easily combo'd against.

Mind Control doesn't allow these bursts of attack that brain does, and mind control can only be used to synch most of the time, making it exceptionally weaker.

Should Mind control be a 3? That's another question. Should it even be allowed, again that's another question.

But Brain has proven itself too much of a luck sack card to be allowed in our metagame.

That's still not a fair judgement. The reason ...

2009-08-09T10:26:32.197-07:00

That's still not a fair judgement. The reason why your asking for it to be banned is because of luck sacking? Brain Control can do amazing things yes, it is entirely too broken for it's own good, so are many other cards. Mirror force, Lightning Vortex, Heavy Storm, and so on. All of those have the ability to luck sack a victory, why not ask for them to be banned as well? I can only assume you're just angry at losing when you thought you should have, but how many monsters spells and traps all also do this? More than just brain control. What about mind control? it allow s for the same plays except for attacking, it targets face-downs, and literally has no cost other than playing it. My question is, why single out brain control? I have no problem with it being banned, but saying it should be banned for a lucky win isn't really a good argument. If you wish to discuss this further, then by all means.

i had a caius, bth, royal oppresion, 3 cards in ha...

2009-08-09T08:42:33.545-07:00

i had a caius, bth, royal oppresion, 3 cards in hand and like 1500 lp. he had 1000 lp and no cards in hand OR on field. He topped a brain control and beat me. ban it!!!

It is when you have a solemn set, a bth set, and a...

2009-08-07T12:49:35.812-07:00

It is when you have a solemn set, a bth set, and a judgment on the field.

You have to take into account all that you need and to ask for all that, and a necro, is again asking for too much.

You take it as a package, not just simply a JD and a necro, that's easy, but that and a solemn, and a bth, and opponents low life, is very hard and rare.

Yet in that rare and powerful position, a single Brain control changes everything.

Not fair, and I think others would agree.

Asking for a Necro? You're running Lightsworn ...

2009-08-07T08:57:33.242-07:00

Asking for a Necro? You're running Lightsworn and have neough in the grave to summon JD, plus the 4 that JD will be milling. It's really not hard to get at least 1 Necro in there.

To ask for a solemn, a bth, and low life points fo...

2009-08-07T04:25:05.139-07:00

To ask for a solemn, a bth, and low life points for your opponent towards the end of the game, and ask for a necro is too much.

If you can set up those types of plays you won't have any trouble winning nationals next year; or any year for that matter.

The rest of us aren't as fortunate.

Asking for a necro, on top of all that, is asking for too much.

The second situation is a little inaccurate, strat...

2009-08-06T15:10:12.092-07:00

The second situation is a little inaccurate, strategy-wise.

If you have JD with a Solemn and BTH set, you'll probably have a Necro in there, protecting you from an Honest play in a mirror match. Most likely, you'll have a follow-up next turn if JD gets destroyed, so you'd be better off with letting JD die, and then keeping your Solemn and Bottomless for whatever they try and use for an offensive push.

Smashing was used only as a method of survival for your opponent, and since it doesn't actually threaten you, it's pretty safe to let that go. If they try to summon something or Brain it, then you Solemn it because it actually poses a threat to your life points and board presence.